This post is supplementary to my post titled Thoughts on the “Is Christianity A Jewish Conspiracy?” (SCTP #118) Debate. I would advise you to read that post, too.
Disclaimer: I had started the draft for this post in January of 2023. However, various personal commitments prevented me from finishing what I had started over the past few months. I had also kept piling on more and more things to this, as it originally only had two sections. Apologies for the delay in posting.
Adam Green and Karl Marx
Way back when I started the draft of the main post in January, I had found an interesting soundbite in one of Adam’s “Know More News” videos. It’s from a 20 Dec. 2022 video of his titled “Abrahamic Cults”, which is one of his typical diatribes against Christianity. The clip in question was posted to Twitter by @paperyeshua and Adam even retweeted it. Here is the quote:
See how he thinks? The most evil thing the gentiles can do, according to their view, is to be nice to them and to allow them to assimilate, so that they don’t stay seperate and holy and chosen and fulfil the Jewish prophecies. That’s the real threat, in their view, is assimilation, not actual persecution. The persecution is good because it keeps them seperate, their divine atonement, it makes them hate the gentiles and under the control of the rabbis and the Torah paradigm.
Adam Green. “Abrahamic Cults | Know More News w/ Adam Green“ (20 Dec. 2022) on Odysee (c.f. also BitChute). Timestamp is around the 1:03:00 mark.
I know Adam has made statements somewhat similar to this one in other videos, including in some of his other debates. But here he spells out his idea most clearly: that his answer to the “Jewish question” is assimilation of the Jewish people into gentile society with the abandonment of their religion.
What’s notable to me about this idea is that it’s awfully similar to the proposal of none other than Karl Marx. Here is what Marx said in his work “On the Jewish Question”:
The most rigid form of the opposition between the Jew and the Christian is the religious opposition. How is an opposition resolved? By making it impossible. How is religious opposition made impossible? By abolishing religion. As soon as Jew and Christian recognize that their respective religions are no more than different stages in the development of the human mind, different snake skins cast off by history, and that man is the snake who sloughed them, the relation of Jew and Christian is no longer religious but is only a critical, scientific, and human relation.
Karl Marx. On the Jewish Question (1843), Part I. Hosted on the Marxists Internet Archive.
Update (Nov. 2023):
Adam illustrated his point more clearly in another video:
See how they feared Germany? They feared not German antisemitism, but German philosemitism. They saw assimilation as the big threat. One, and two: the threat was Europeans breaking the yoke of Yahweh and the Moshiach. They saw that as a tragedy; the goyim not being Christians, and going back to their ancient religions. They did not like that at all.
Adam Green. “Judeo Mind Wars & Christian Prophecy Qanon Psyops | Know More News w/ Adam Green“ (22 Nov. 2023) on Odysee. Timestamp is around the 1:39:00 mark.
Adam Green and Simon Peter
One of Adam Green’s big anti-Christian talking points hinges on an obscure Jewish tale about Simon Peter, the Apostle of Jesus Christ. The Jewish fable goes that Peter aka Cephas was sent as an agent of the rabbis to trick the early Christian church into becoming a Gentile religion and to avoid the Jews.
Adam Green himself has made a video compiling various Jewish rabbis talking about this fable. You may find it on Bitchute under the title “Rabbis Believe Saint Peter & Saint Paul are Secret Agents of the Jews“ (4 Jan. 2023).
This fable also appears in the Toledot Yeshu, a Jewish anti-Christian tale from the middle ages which mocks the Lord Jesus Christ. The fable is recounted here:
The Sages desired to separate from Israel those who continued to claim Yeshu as the Messiah, and they called upon a greatly learned man, Simeon Kepha, for help. Simeon went to Antioch, main city of the Nazarenes and proclaimed to them: “I am the disciple of Yeshu. He has sent me to show you the way. I will give you a sign as Yeshu has done.”
Toledot Yeshu. Translated by Morris Goldstein in Jesus in the Jewish Tradition (New York, Macmillan: 1950), pp. 153-154. Edited by Alan Humm on jewishchristianlit.com.
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All these new ordinances which Simeon Kepha (or Paul, as he was known to the Nazarenes) taught them were really meant to separate these Nazarenes from the people of Israel and to bring the internal strife to an end.
Now, Adam Green places an unusual amount of faith in this little fable. Even if he doesn’t believe the fable is true history, he still finds it a trustworthy glimpse at some kind of truth. Here is a quote from one of his videos on the Toledot Yeshu story:
And they’ll claim “Oh, this is just from the 1500s.” Scholars believe that this was- this copy circulated- was widely circulated in the 1500s, but that these are ideas that are in the oral law that go back long before this, like many things. This has been their secret. And I am skeptical if this is how it actually went down, but it’s very telling. It speaks volumes that all these rabbis believe that Christianity was set up by their secret agents to separate it from Judaism and give it- sell it to the Romans. Set it up in Rome, in Edom, which was Edom. They created and turned into their Esau controlled opposition.
Adam Green. “‘Day of Hate’ Hoax & the Secret Agent Founders of Christianity | Know More News w/ Adam Green“ (27 Feb. 2023) on Odysee. Timestamp is around the 0:59:51 mark.
Adam Green and Rom. 9
I have stumbled across a Twitter post made by Adam Green in regards to Esau’s identification with the gentiles. Here, he claimed that St. Paul affirms the Jewish association of Esau/Edom with Rome, Europe, and Christianity. (For those unfamiliar with the topic, I would point them to the article “Esau the Ancestor of Rome” by Dr. Malka Z. Simkovich.) I assume that Adam makes similar claims in his videos, but I do not know for sure.
@eatyourcrow: I just have a question. How are Jews Israel when Psalm 137:7, Ezekiel 36:5 tells us that they are in fact Edomites and not Israel? Herod was an Edomite Jew
Twitter source.
Jesus confronts the Edomite Jews in John 8:31-47. Jews being Israel or God’s people doesn’t make sense
@Know_More_News: The Bible never calls j-ws edom.
Jesus never said that.
Paul associates gentiles with Esau in Romans 9.
However, this statement — that Paul calls the gentiles “Esau” in Romans 9 — is demonstrably false. All one needs to do is look at what Romans 9 says. In fact, Paul is saying virtually the opposite:
But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. For this is what the promise said: “About this time next year I will return, and Sarah shall have a son.” And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
St. Paul. Romans 9.6-13 (ESV).
More or less the whole context of Romans 9 is explaining how the Jews can be cut off from the covenant while God remains faithful to his promise. He cites the example of Esau to show how blood-descendants of Abraham, like the Jews, can be rejected by God. It’s practically the opposite of how Adam frames it.
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2 responses to “Suppliments to the SCTP #118 post”
This was extremely interesting. I’d never heard of Adam Green — or this bizarre medieval tale.
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I don’t blame you. I’ve only heard of Adam from an older debate (I forgot who it was with), and I’ve only heard about the medieval St. Peter legend when I started the draft of this post.
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